JP. I don't think playing the 13 team bracket is reasonable or appropriate. While there are always similarities the brackets do differ and I don't think we really have any leeway to make up our own by skipping games with new phantom byes. Unless HQ says to keep the 13 I think you have to use a 12 team bracket. I have had this happen in the past and sometimes you can work it out so that at least the majority of the teams still play each other as originally planned and even play on the same day and time. In my opinion that is a better adjustment than a complete redraw with all new pairings. This disrupts the fewest number of teams in both who they face and when they play. I see that you have already sent out the new schedule/bracket so the above is moot. I support however you have come up with for redrawing the 12 team bracket. If you came up with a complete reshuffle draw or chose to place teams into games to stay close to their original pairings I'm fine with either choice you had to make. Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of jarel@jpiworldwide.com Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2023 3:05 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Subject: [Wadas] Urgent: Decision time on 8-10s Baseball Importance: High All, As you all know, we have had a team scratched from the 8-10 State Baseball. This means we have two choices, and I'd like to get your ideas on the options before we publish new brackets. Because we drop from a 13 team to 12 team bracket, it means that a couple things can happen. 1. Put the original draws into a 12 team bracket and let the "byes" shuffle a bit, with one team having to show up earlier than planned. OR 2. Try to play through the 13 team bracket as it stands. Problem with 1) All the schedules MAY change as to time and with one of the "byes" eliminated, there will be one team that has to show up earlier than planned, and one team that has to play earlier than planned. Problem with 2) It creates extra "byes" both in the winners and losers brackets, which means more sit time for teams, and a stress on the volunteer and umpire pool. Plus it may work out that it actually stretches the tournament a day to get all the loser slots played. Although both options have problems, Option 1 means only 1 team is "inconvenienced". The rest can keep nearly the same playing times. Option 2 seems pretty unworkable in the losers bracket. and creates odd pairings in possibly both brackets. Please let me know ASAP - I have option 1 ready to go. if that' the way that seems best to all. Regards JP DA WA5/13