Hi Ann, Given the dates you have listed, we would need be done with our District tournament by June 22/23 in order to allow the families of the District champions to have time to make arrangements (travel, hotel, work) for Vancouver. That would mean we would need to start our Tournament by June 14 given that we frequently have 10 or 11 teams in D8 for Softball 8-9-10. After doing some checking, we have several leagues that are still wrapping up their scheduled season by that time. Even if they were to change their league schedules, you are talking about teams having only a few days to have practices and arrange everything that goes along with All Stars. I know that some cannot just adjust to get the games in earlier because fields from Seattle Parks and Rec are hard to come by with so many groups that vie for them (youth sports doesn’t really get any preferential treatment). So basically, they would have to shorten the season for ALL the girls at these levels in order to accommodate the All Stars. And then we have 3 very large school districts that aren’t out of school until Friday June 20 (at least, given snow/closures that occurred during the winter storms) I also bounced this off of my District Softball people, and this basically isn’t going to be feasible and allow the girls to enjoy the All Star experience. We should not short change the regular season in order to accommodate All Stars, and we need to ensure that we give the All Star teams time. That is not to mention the 2-a-day games for some teams at that age group for State. The only time I have seen this is at the older levels, and usually only for the “what-if” 2nd Championship game, or if rainouts are a factor. It would be appreciated D4’s decision on dates for hosting the SB 8-9-10 State tournament would be revisited. Thanks Brian Marantz District Administrator Washington District 8 Little League (425) 785-9400 brianmarantz@hotmail.com<mailto:brianmarantz@hotmail.com> https://www.llwadistrict8.org<https://www.llwadistrict8.org/> https://www.facebook.com/wadistrict8/ [A cartoon octopus holding a baseball bat AI-generated content may be incorrect.] [cid:image002.jpg@01DB9A85.A42AD540] From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of Janice via Wadas Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 4:57 PM To: Bob Toigo <da@washdist9.org> Cc: Janice <Softballjan@comcast.net>; Discussion Forum Washington DAs <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] 8-10 SB State Tournament in Vancouver WA Ann, I appreciate trying to shorten the tournament dates to cut down on costs, but at this age having back to Back games (or 2 games in a day) would be a challenge because pitching at this age is still developing and I think with restricted pitching innings it could be hard for teams. Janice Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2025, at 4:48 PM, Bob Toigo <da@washdist9.org<mailto:da@washdist9.org>> wrote: Ann, My softball people , really think it’s to early, some of our schools may not be done, and with the wind bomb there will lose days, and we will have to make them up , and we may have snow days, to early to tell . I can’t tell you that we will compete in the tournament as of now. I know it’s hard to get leagues to take a tournament but as for D-9 we would see if the tournament dates can be changed. Thank you, Bob Toigo, Janice Christensen Bob Toigo, Janice Christensen District Administrator District 9 Little League Washington State da@washdist9.org<mailto:da@washdist9.org>, softballjan@washdist9.org<mailto:softballjan@washdist9.org> Cell: (206) 799-4050 Home Phone: (425) 868-4933 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Friday, March 21, 2025 12:30 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] 8-10 SB State Tournament in Vancouver WA I have adjusted the state matrix to these dates. On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 7:07 AM Ann Leggett via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: Hello fellow DAs, For those of you who were not in CA last Saturday you were missed. As I stated some time ago, I could not confirm the 8-10 State Softball dates until I found a host league and we worked out our tournament schedule. I believe we have completed this as best as we can at this time. We have decided to hold the 8-10 State SB tournament June 28 - July 3. This is what works best for the host league. Yes, this is early and most tournaments that don't advance past state are later in July. However, we believe by holding this tournament earlier we will avoid the rush of state tournaments which start July 5 and the other four that start the next two weekends. We also believe if we get this tournament done early players will be free to join other age-appropriate teams if they are needed. We are going to have some double headers (two games in a day but they may not be back to back) to shorten the tournament from nine days to six. Travel is expensive and we want to help the families out as much as we can. 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