We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. *Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. *Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
No changes. Original On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 3:12 PM WA District 3 Little League via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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Hi, I just want to confirm what the options are, since its not totally clear. BB Intermediate STATE AND Baseball Senior STATE: Option 1: Original dates, as per the attached PDF: June 28-July 5 Option 2: Move out a week: July 5 – July 12 Are these the correct options to vote on? Brian Marantz District Administrator Washington District 8 Little League (425) 785-9400 brianmarantz@hotmail.com<mailto:brianmarantz@hotmail.com> https://www.llwadistrict8.org<https://www.llwadistrict8.org/> https://www.facebook.com/wadistrict8/ [A cartoon octopus holding a baseball bat AI-generated content may be incorrect.] [cid:image002.jpg@01DB800B.4C64ED80] From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19.
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19.
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier. So, my vote from D8 is: Move out a week: July 5 - July 12 More on All Stars: We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA's need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA's. Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo's chauffer). --Brian D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of Kim Betzsold via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com Cc: Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19.
Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5. I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not. I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland. I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier.
So, my vote from D8 is: *Move out a week: July 5 – July 12*
*More on All Stars:* We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s.
Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer).
--Brian
D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *Kim Betzsold via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com *Cc:* Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here...
By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland?
~Kim ------------------------------
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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D-13 Prefers a meeting in Richland… and leaving it as original is my vote. Sincerely, JP District Administrator (DA) Washington Little League – District 13 E: dadist13@wadist13ll.org<mailto:dadist13@wadist13ll.org> T:509-995-4200 http://www.wadist13ll.org Follow us on Facebook@wadist13ll [cid:image001.png@01DB80F1.BDA9FF30][cid:image002.jpg@01DB80F1.BDA9FF30] From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:57 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5. I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not. I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland. I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier. So, my vote from D8 is: Move out a week: July 5 – July 12 More on All Stars: We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s. Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer). --Brian D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of Kim Betzsold via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com<mailto:kbetzsold@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.rodeonetworks.com_mailman_listinfo_wadas&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=Y0J9venJagBF2dxHYNFgZMMCHGqosdWtt3gHwZO8U40&m=abQrRFxiHJ1JoqGF_BvOQUlapxBsYNx8iRRZfNl8Vo_m5HXTKoD_ospvLKcAyxvO&s=h-iKzTMc7lXZ0CRSuLyP5gHHUIfNryNvC-5nIYKvvls&e=>
I cannot confirm the dates yet for 8-10 SB in D4. We may not be able to host during these assigned dates. More to come once I am able to meet with the president of the league. Not that I expect we would be impacted, but it seems the state dates don't allow for players from 8-10 or 9-11 SB to participate at the Regional level if their team is not eliminated very early. Am I reading this correctly? I don't like the thought of having 5 state tournaments all at the same time. I don't think we have been fortunate enough to have teams advance to Regionals since my son played. We had 8 days to raise funds and that was tight. If 12 days between tournaments is too long and five too short, can there be a meeting in the middle, say June 30 to July 6? Odd start and end dates that maybe no one likes due to families' schedules and traveling. I would vote to keep them as is. starting June 28 if these are the only two options we have. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:57 PM WA District 3 Little League via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5.
I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not.
I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland.
I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier.
So, my vote from D8 is: *Move out a week: July 5 – July 12*
*More on All Stars:* We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s.
Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer).
--Brian
D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *Kim Betzsold via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com *Cc:* Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here...
By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland?
~Kim ------------------------------
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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Hi Amy, The 8-9-10 and 9-10-11 age levels for BOTH Baseball and Softball only have District and State tournament levels. State is the end of the line for them. Only at the “Little League” level and above does the State Champion move on to Regionals and possibly the World Series. “Little League” is also sometimes called “Majors” or “10-11-12” Brian Marantz District Administrator Washington District 8 Little League (425) 785-9400 brianmarantz@hotmail.com<mailto:brianmarantz@hotmail.com> https://www.llwadistrict8.org<https://www.llwadistrict8.org/> https://www.facebook.com/wadistrict8/ [A cartoon octopus holding a baseball bat AI-generated content may be incorrect.] [cid:image002.jpg@01DB8189.CB111A80] From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of Ann Leggett via Wadas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 9:33 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: Ann Leggett <washd4da@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I cannot confirm the dates yet for 8-10 SB in D4. We may not be able to host during these assigned dates. More to come once I am able to meet with the president of the league. Not that I expect we would be impacted, but it seems the state dates don't allow for players from 8-10 or 9-11 SB to participate at the Regional level if their team is not eliminated very early. Am I reading this correctly? I don't like the thought of having 5 state tournaments all at the same time. I don't think we have been fortunate enough to have teams advance to Regionals since my son played. We had 8 days to raise funds and that was tight. If 12 days between tournaments is too long and five too short, can there be a meeting in the middle, say June 30 to July 6? Odd start and end dates that maybe no one likes due to families' schedules and traveling. I would vote to keep them as is. starting June 28 if these are the only two options we have. [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4z0chBV6e-5q1pU0VHUsaopuQ9rf...] On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:57 PM WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5. I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not. I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland. I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier. So, my vote from D8 is: Move out a week: July 5 – July 12 More on All Stars: We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s. Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer). --Brian D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of Kim Betzsold via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com<mailto:kbetzsold@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas
I forgot to ask, if tournaments are the only item on the agenda, do we need to meet in person in Richland or should we meet online? On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:57 PM WA District 3 Little League via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5.
I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not.
I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland.
I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier.
So, my vote from D8 is: *Move out a week: July 5 – July 12*
*More on All Stars:* We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s.
Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer).
--Brian
D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *Kim Betzsold via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com *Cc:* Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here...
By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland?
~Kim ------------------------------
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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I’m responding for Bob who is having email problems – Our district tournament dates are set for the original dates so we can accommodate either. If the date is pushed out, it just means the kids have an extra week before state. Tonya ADA WA D9 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:57 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5. I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not. I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland. I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier. So, my vote from D8 is: Move out a week: July 5 – July 12 More on All Stars: We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s. Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer). --Brian D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of Kim Betzsold via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com<mailto:kbetzsold@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas
Ann: The request originally was for an in-person meeting toward the end of April. I thought we might be sable to combine the regional meeting with a state meeting, but we would barely have a quorum in California (or maybe not). I'm fine with whatever the group decides, but if we are going to meet in person in Richland, Kim needs to know this week. My new email address for Little League is wdist3ll@gmail.com. I'm sure smarter people than me could have set up a district 3.org or some such address, but I'm not that smart where some of this tech stuff is. concerned. Current vote totals are 4-3-1 in favor of moving the dates to July 5. On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 1:06 PM Tonya Henry via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
I’m responding for Bob who is having email problems –
Our district tournament dates are set for the original dates so we can accommodate either. If the date is pushed out, it just means the kids have an extra week before state.
Tonya
ADA WA D9
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *WA District 3 Little League via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:57 PM *To:* Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5.
I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not.
I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland.
I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier.
So, my vote from D8 is: *Move out a week: July 5 – July 12*
*More on All Stars:* We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s.
Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer).
--Brian
D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *Kim Betzsold via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com *Cc:* Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here...
By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland?
~Kim ------------------------------
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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Hi, Is there an update on the vote to move those 2 State Tournaments out a week? It was BB Intermediate and BB Seniors (original attachment is included, just in case). Thx --Brian DA WA D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 8:10 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates Ann: The request originally was for an in-person meeting toward the end of April. I thought we might be sable to combine the regional meeting with a state meeting, but we would barely have a quorum in California (or maybe not). I'm fine with whatever the group decides, but if we are going to meet in person in Richland, Kim needs to know this week. My new email address for Little League is wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>. I'm sure smarter people than me could have set up a district 3.org<http://3.org/> or some such address, but I'm not that smart where some of this tech stuff is. concerned. Current vote totals are 4-3-1 in favor of moving the dates to July 5. On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 1:06 PM Tonya Henry via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: I’m responding for Bob who is having email problems – Our district tournament dates are set for the original dates so we can accommodate either. If the date is pushed out, it just means the kids have an extra week before state. Tonya ADA WA D9 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:57 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5. I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not. I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland. I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area. On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> wrote: After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier. So, my vote from D8 is: Move out a week: July 5 – July 12 More on All Stars: We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s. Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer). --Brian D8 From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> On Behalf Of Kim Betzsold via Wadas Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> Cc: Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com<mailto:kbetzsold@msn.com>> Subject: Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here... By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland? ~Kim ________________________________ From: Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM To: wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com>> Cc: WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com<mailto:wdist3ll@gmail.com>> Subject: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com<mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas
I'm sorry. I thought I had reported back. The tournaments are going to move on a 5-4 vote. I am working on an email to explain my poor leadership and hope to get it out later today. On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 9:39 PM Brian Marantz <brianmarantz@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Is there an update on the vote to move those 2 State Tournaments out a week? It was BB Intermediate and BB Seniors (original attachment is included, just in case).
Thx
--Brian
DA WA D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *WA District 3 Little League via Wadas *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 8:10 PM *To:* Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
Ann: The request originally was for an in-person meeting toward the end of April. I thought we might be sable to combine the regional meeting with a state meeting, but we would barely have a quorum in California (or maybe not). I'm fine with whatever the group decides, but if we are going to meet in person in Richland, Kim needs to know this week.
My new email address for Little League is wdist3ll@gmail.com. I'm sure smarter people than me could have set up a district 3.org or some such address, but I'm not that smart where some of this tech stuff is. concerned.
Current vote totals are 4-3-1 in favor of moving the dates to July 5.
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 1:06 PM Tonya Henry via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
I’m responding for Bob who is having email problems –
Our district tournament dates are set for the original dates so we can accommodate either. If the date is pushed out, it just means the kids have an extra week before state.
Tonya
ADA WA D9
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *WA District 3 Little League via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:57 PM *To:* Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
Not many votes are in for the dates. So far it's 3 to one in favor of moving the tournaments back a week to July 5.
I am going to Ontario, but I am hearing that about a third of us are not.
I think we will need a meeting in late April in Richland.
I'm open to other people's thoughts. I have not gotten an answer about a meeting room in Ontario, but early indications are we would have to pay - so we would probably meet in one of our rooms, or a lobby area.
On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 3:41 PM Brian Marantz via Wadas < wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote:
After consulting with the leagues in District 8 that usually have Teenage Baseball, the consensus is that if we could move out the State Tournament a week, which would allow us to move out our corresponding D8 District Tournament for these levels, it would make my leagues happier.
So, my vote from D8 is: *Move out a week: July 5 – July 12*
*More on All Stars:* We will have a league with a Senior Softball team for the first time that anyone can remember here in District 8. The team has been chartered by one of my leagues, which is the requirement in order to be able to charter an All Star team. So, we as DA’s need to find out if there will be others, and if so, we will need to determine a State Tournament. Last year, I know that D2-North Kitsap Poulsbo had a team. This needs to be discussed across the WA DA’s.
Lastly, I will NOT be in Ontario on March 15. I have a year long project at work that culminates with a system-wide deployment the weekend of March 15-16. So I would prefer a meeting in April and have no problems driving to Richland (and being Toigo’s chauffer).
--Brian
D8
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *On Behalf Of *Kim Betzsold via Wadas *Sent:* Sunday, February 16, 2025 1:44 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com *Cc:* Kim Betzsold <kbetzsold@msn.com> *Subject:* Re: [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
I vote for the week later start dates. State tournaments that begin in late June are way too early for my leagues, which is part of the reason we have such a difficult time "selling" the teen divisions over here...
By the way, ARE we meeting down in Ontario on Saturday evening, or do I still need to schedule a meeting location for a late April meeting here in Richland?
~Kim ------------------------------
*From:* Wadas <wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> on behalf of WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Sent:* Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:12 PM *To:* wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> *Cc:* WA District 3 Little League <wdist3ll@gmail.com> *Subject:* [Wadas] State Tournament Dates
We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early.
I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals.
Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors.
Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2.
*Note my change of email address*. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle.
*Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. *
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Glen, D2 preference is to start them on July 5 rather than in June. Note that your email address doesn’t show up when you send things to the Discussion Forum and you didn’t include an email signature. Please include the new email address in a future email. Thanks, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 +1-360-779-1824 home +1-360-271-5193 mobile +1-888-977-8818 fax Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= On Feb 15, 2025, at 3:12 PM, WA District 3 Little League via Wadas <wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> wrote: We did not approve state tournament dates at our fall meeting because of concern that we would be starting some tournaments too early. I have attached the original proposal. I have highlighted the two tournaments that people thought were too early. Last year with the same interval between state and regionals as these teams would have, some people complained there wasn't enough time to get from state to regionals. Since my teams have been in that situation for intermediate the last two years, and made it fine, I prefer the alternative dates of starting the two highlighted tournaments a week later. This means five tournaments would start on the same date. This may create a shortage of umpires able to travel, but my experience the last few years is that we have had very few umpires travel, anyway, except for baseball majors. Please give me a vote for Original - Option 1 / or the highlighted one with the two baseball tournaments moved a week later - Option 2. Note my change of email address. This is due to a Microsoft screw up with my email account that lost years of historical emails that helped keep me informed when things came up. It crashed Jan. 1 and none of it was recoverable - although I have kept the ones that have blank sender areas, no readable message, a subject line of <No Subject> and the actual date and time sent in hopes that someday I can figure out how to get them back. I was able to get on the server and download everything for 9 months prior to the crash. Sorting through more than 10,000 emails, figuring out which I had taken action on and which I still needed to take action on. Luckily, senility hasn't crept in, so other than the sheer volume, I didn't have too much trouble with the sorting. I'm not a fan of Google, but I can no longer trust Outlook as a reliable email vehicle. Please give me your vote for schedules by Wednesday, Feb. 19. <2025 State Tournaments.pdf> _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas
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