March 2021 - Wadas - list2.rodeonetworks.com

State Guidelines and WIAA
by Mike Ray 30 Mar '21

30 Mar '21

All, I do not know if you have seen these yet. They are for your review. Mike

3 2

WA District 2 - Scorekeeping Clinic March 21
by Pat Ryan 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Folks, District 2 will be hosting a scorekeeping clinic this coming Sunday. We have had some inquiries from people outside the district about attending. Anyone is welcome to attend. Pre-registration is requested so that we can send follow up information discussed in the clinic. The announcement that went out to our leagues follows. Feel free to share with those in your district. Mark your calendars for March 21, 2021 2pm-4pm for our inaugural score keeper training clinic. This will be a virtual meeting held via Zoom. There is no charge for individuals to attend. However, pre-registration is required so that we have a head count. Information and a registration link is on the District website at https://www.wad2llb.org/training/clinics-seminars/event/0/339-training/24-di strict-2-inaugural-scorekeeping-clinic. Annie Kudrna one of our Assistant District Administrators and others will lead this session. Annie and her crew have been doing this for years and will share their process and tips to make scorekeeping an enjoyable task rather than a dreaded one. Whether you are new to scorekeeping or are looking for a refresher you will find this very helpful. Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb =======================================

1 0

Washington State DRAFT Phase 3 Rules
by Pat Ryan 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Attached is a DRAFT version of the rules being considered for Phase 3. This came from one of my presidents who received it from Jon Snyder who is the "Outdoor recreation and Economic Development Senior Policy Advisor to Gov. Jay Inslee". The text of his email was: Attached is the draft for Phase 3 Sporting Activities. This draft is still being circulated internally and may undergo significant revisions. This document just contains the new guidelines proposed for Phase 3 and does not include all previous guidance for Phases 1 and 2. Phase 3 is currently slated to begin 3/22. Can you please send me feedback, if you have any, no later than Friday morning 3/19 if possible? If you are a part of a larger organization I would appreciate unified feedback from your entire organization if possible. Thank you. Jon Snyder Note that this specifically addresses tournaments. If you have specific comments that you'd like to share with Jon I can funnel them back through the person who sent me this. Mike, this might also be worth trying to touch base with Jon directly as the WA State LL DA big cheese. Jon's email address is jon.snyder(a)gov.wa.gov <mailto:jon.snyder@gov.wa.gov> . Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb =======================================

5 4

StateTournamentPressRelease.docx
by jarel＠rodeotv.net 17 Mar '21

17 Mar '21

Hi All DAs I wanted to put this press release out to you all - to get your thoughts. This is for publication in the LC Valley News outlets to start to build support for the State 12's tournament. See anything horribly wrong? If not we'll get it posted tomorrow to all the Radio, TV, and Newspaper outlets in the area. Hopefully this will spur some of the businesses to support ACLL JP DA Wa5/13

5 4

Updated Matrix
by Mike Ray 11 Mar '21

11 Mar '21

All, I am attaching an updated Tournament dates matrix. I apologize for the mix-up of dates. I am currently in North Carolina and tried to do the matrix from memory. As you can see, my memory is not so good. Hopefully, this one is correct. Thanks for understanding, Mike

2 1

Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19
by llsmokey＠comcast.net 11 Mar '21

11 Mar '21

I like the 17th Bob Sent from Xfinity Connect App ------ Original Message ------ From: Jarel Pittman. (JP) To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' Sent: March 8, 2021 at 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Hi All, I had not moved the Majors tournament to the 19th…. I still have it as the 17th… I can move it if everyone feels it’s better but we were still working with Saturday the 17th. JP From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:56 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Well that makes me feel better – So just to confirm, your moving 8/9/10 baseball state tournament to a July 24thstart? Bob / JP – Are you really starting 9/10/11 and Majors baseball on Monday, July 19th? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com) From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> On Behalf Of Glen Dickason Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:31 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 I thought I sent an email moving it to the 24th and that Bob had done the same with the 9-11. I saw that isn’t what Mike Had, but I was waiting to see if others thought it was different or if I had it wrong. From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> on behalf of Scott WA 08 Brohaugh <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com)> Reply-To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Date: Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:35 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Thanks Glen! I assume that you decided to keep the 8/9/10 baseball tournament on the 10th? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com) From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> On Behalf Of Glen Dickason Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:07 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Yes. I have been in several conversations with the state recreation director. So far, we have been mainly working on the mask angle for outdoor sports for phase two if we are still in phase two when games start. I think we will have some relief on that by the time the games start. I haven’t worried too much about tournaments other than to let him know it is a concern. I haven’t seen a reason to negotiate anything there when we have a governor who changes the metrics, the goals and the rules every other week. Several regions met the original guidelines for reaching phase three two weeks ago, but our governor decided to just “freeze us” at phase two for a while. I hope he is working on phase three rules before he unfreezes us. I have confidence that our views and needs will be reflected in the next phase guidelines. I think when the time comes, we will be able to play tournaments unless there is a big reversal in where we are with cases. From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> on behalf of Scott WA 08 Brohaugh <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com)> Reply-To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Date: Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:09 PM To: Pat WA 02 Ryan <Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org (mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org)>, 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Yes – I think Glen had that action, didn’t he? I remember him telling us to hold off talking to anybody associated with the state government so that he could work with his connection. Glenn – Am I remembering that right? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com) From: Pat Ryan <pat.ryan(a)wad2llb.org (mailto:pat.ryan@wad2llb.org)> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 9:14 PM To: scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com); 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: RE: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Scott, I agree that the regulation words don’t seem to match the actual intent or goal. That being said, it seems like we should try to find a way to get a dialog going to reword the regulation. If we don’t get it revised I think we are stuck with no post-season play if the state doesn’t move beyond our current Phase 2. (We still don’t have any idea what a Phase 3 might be). Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org (mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org) www.WAD2LLB.org (http://www.wad2llb.org2/) "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com) <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com)> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 9:08 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)>; Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org (mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org) Subject: RE: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Hello everyone, In my opinion, our state government made a mistake when they used the word “Tournament”. For example, my District has a 7 field facility, maintained by four different leagues. In a month, the four different leagues will be playing games on those seven fields all day long. There is no tournament, just regular season games. To the best of my knowledge this is fine just as long as we make sure not to exceed the maximum number of spectators on any given field and follow proper mask and social distancing guidelines. Now if our All Star tournaments were to be held at that same facility, we’d have two games going on, while most likely the other 5 fields sat empty. But yet per state guidelines we couldn’t play because it is a “Tournament”. I know the state’s intent was to eliminate large gatherings of people, and their thought was that they could do so by eliminating “Tournaments”. This is what happens when you have people who “Aren’t in the know” making policy. But it’s life, it happens. Personally, I do not know a lot about the state cup, but if it’s one game on one field, and rules are put in place to limit the number of attendees and follow proper mask and social distancing guidelines, I’m fine with it. These kids have suffered enough and it’s time to get them back out onto the field playing ball, whether it be soccer, softball, baseball, lacrosse, etc. Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com (mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com) From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> On Behalf Of Mike Ray Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 1:07 PM To: Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org (mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org); 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Pat, To me, they can say what they want. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck. No matter what they say about its structure, it is still a tournament. Mike From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> On Behalf Of Pat Ryan Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:36 AM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com)> Subject: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 FYI The Washington Youth Soccer organization is in full swing with their end of year “tournaments”. They have teams from all over the state participating. I sent them an email to find out how they are able to do so. Below is the response I received. The basic gist of this is that their regular program is comprised of teams from all over the state who play each other during the season. So their “tournament” is being viewed as year end league games rather than a tournament. This begs the question for us. Is there a way to structure our “year end” program to a point that we could also comply? We already have inter-league play within the district and often between districts. This seems like we’d need some direct discussions with the State of Washington folks. Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org (mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org) www.WAD2LLB.org (http://www.wad2llb.org2/) "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org (mailto:BastienC@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org)> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 3:53 PM To: Pat.Ryan(a)KPSRA.com (mailto:Pat.Ryan@KPSRA.com) Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org (mailto:KeliB@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org)> Subject: RE: State Cups & COVID-19 Pat, State cup is not a tournament. Group games and quarterfinal are set like any league games. Semi and final will be set like you are playing a league game at Starfire where teams come to play their game and leave after the game. Best, Bastien BASTIEN CATRIN EPD & STATE CUP DIRECTOR O: (253) 476-2237 | P: (253) 944-1604 | C: (304) 940-6082 7100 Fort Dent Way / Suite 215 / Tukwila, WA 98188 Website (http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/) | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/WAYouthSoccer/) | Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/wayouthsoccer/) | Twitter (https://twitter.com/WAYouthSoccer) From: Pat Ryan <pat.ryan(a)kpsra.com (mailto:pat.ryan@kpsra.com)> Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:57 PM To: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org (mailto:BastienC@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org)> Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org (mailto:KeliB@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org)> Subject: State Cups & COVID-19 Bastien, I’m getting lots of questions about the State Cups regarding the Phase 2 protocols which mandate that tournaments are not allowed. How are the State Cups not considered tournaments or does WYSA have an exemption with the State of Washington to hold these? Thanks, Pat _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com) http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com (mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com) http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas

2 1

State Majors Update
by jarel＠jpiworldwide.com 10 Mar '21

10 Mar '21

Hi All, I went down to Clarkston last night to discuss the state 12 year old tournament for 2021. The crew down there is excited and the COVID situation is pretty good. The stores and restaurants were very lax in their requirements for masks and all the COVID restrictions (the café I was in for lunch didnt have anyone wearing masks including the staff!). So we are good to go I think unless something changes The fields looked good, the town was pretty open, and on the Idaho side, they have never been shutdown so Lewiston is wide open. This led me to think of a couple things I wanted to put out to the group. 1. How heavy should we hit pre-publicity? The reason I ask is that if we tout that Clarkston/ACLL is open come on down and get out from underneath COVID rules and play some baseball will that cause a backlash and damage the openness of the situation? The whole town seemed normal. I dont want to create a situation where we make the news. If you know what I mean yet at the same time its great that life is normal down in extreme southeast Washington. 2. One thing to promote to your leagues in your districts is that it is very Open in Asotin county and Nez Perce county in Idaho (They never shutdown) This may be a chance for families to have an extended vacation and use the State Tournament as an excuse to spend some time out in the open for a change. 3. I did meet with a member of the Board for the Lewiston Little League to start exploring the idea that if things do get tamped down as far as holding the tournament in Washington, would they be open to helping us to use their fields in Lewiston. For those of you that dont know the difference between Clarkston Washington and Lewiston Idaho is about 400 of river. You can get from one town to the other in about 5 minutes from just about anywhere in either town. Lewiston has never been shutdown so the people in Clarkston went to Idaho for fun and dining out when the Governor of Washington closed down Washington. It was no difference. So we COULD (I think) use the field in Lewiston for the Washington state tournament if it came down to it. The Board at ACLL is fired up to do the tournament. Their Chief Umpire will be reaching out to Dennis for help in lining up umpires as they are kind of remote and dont know a lot of people around the state that can help with umpires. I think they have a handle on everything else as they have done a lot of tournaments of different sizes including state level. Their facilities dont need anything and are in near perfect shape They have lots of practice facilities, bullpens, batting cages, parking, etc. Your thoughts? JP DA WA 5/13

3 2

A few Items
by Mike Ray 10 Mar '21

10 Mar '21

All, I hope this email finds you all doing well and safe. Just a few notes from last nights meeting with April: 1. The West Region team count is down 21% year to date. Washington is down 18% year to date 2. There is still one million dollars left in the T-Mobile Call Up Grant program. Here is the link: https://www.littleleague.org/call-up-grant-program/ . Encourage your leagues to participate in this program. 3. Next, Make sure your leagues register for the Lift Your League Fundraising Programs. This is a great chance to get some funds to help offset expenses. Here is the link: https://www.littleleague.org/lift-your-league-support/ . 4. Look for more information on streaming games. There will be forms to be filled out as there must be a release from each participant involved in each game. This would include players, managers, coaches, and umpires. 5. Out of boundary player forms located in the Data Center are only for players from leagues that chose not to play this year. All other OOB players must be claimed on a II(d), IV(h), or go through the waiver process. 6. Please continue to have your leagues submit ASAP Safety Plans to the Data Center. Registration Data does not have to be submitted until May 1st. The plan still has to be submitted by April 2nd to receive the district incentive. 7. I have attached a matrix of State Tournament dates and locations. Please review this and submit any corrections to me. Thanks, Mike

4 3

State Majors Still 17th
by jarel＠jpiworldwide.com 09 Mar '21

09 Mar '21

All, Since I haven’t heard from anyone other than Bob, I am going to leave the Majors at July 17th (Saturday) JP From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com> On Behalf Of llsmokey(a)comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 8:53 AM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com> Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 I like the 17th Bob Sent from Xfinity Connect App ------ Original Message ------ From: Jarel Pittman. (JP) To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' Sent: March 8, 2021 at 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Hi All, I had not moved the Majors tournament to the 19th…. I still have it as the 17th… I can move it if everyone feels it’s better but we were still working with Saturday the 17th. JP From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > On Behalf Of scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 10:56 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Well that makes me feel better – So just to confirm, your moving 8/9/10 baseball state tournament to a July 24thstart? Bob / JP – Are you really starting 9/10/11 and Majors baseball on Monday, July 19th? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > On Behalf Of Glen Dickason Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:31 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 I thought I sent an email moving it to the 24th and that Bob had done the same with the 9-11. I saw that isn’t what Mike Had, but I was waiting to see if others thought it was different or if I had it wrong. From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > on behalf of Scott WA 08 Brohaugh <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> > Reply-To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Date: Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:35 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Thanks Glen! I assume that you decided to keep the 8/9/10 baseball tournament on the 10th? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > On Behalf Of Glen Dickason Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 10:07 PM To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Yes. I have been in several conversations with the state recreation director. So far, we have been mainly working on the mask angle for outdoor sports for phase two if we are still in phase two when games start. I think we will have some relief on that by the time the games start. I haven’t worried too much about tournaments other than to let him know it is a concern. I haven’t seen a reason to negotiate anything there when we have a governor who changes the metrics, the goals and the rules every other week. Several regions met the original guidelines for reaching phase three two weeks ago, but our governor decided to just “freeze us” at phase two for a while. I hope he is working on phase three rules before he unfreezes us. I have confidence that our views and needs will be reflected in the next phase guidelines. I think when the time comes, we will be able to play tournaments unless there is a big reversal in where we are with cases. From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > on behalf of Scott WA 08 Brohaugh <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> > Reply-To: Washington DAs Discussion Forum <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Date: Friday, March 5, 2021 at 10:09 PM To: Pat WA 02 Ryan <Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> >, 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Yes – I think Glen had that action, didn’t he? I remember him telling us to hold off talking to anybody associated with the state government so that he could work with his connection. Glenn – Am I remembering that right? Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> From: Pat Ryan <pat.ryan(a)wad2llb.org <mailto:pat.ryan@wad2llb.org> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 9:14 PM To: scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> ; 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: RE: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Scott, I agree that the regulation words don’t seem to match the actual intent or goal. That being said, it seems like we should try to find a way to get a dialog going to reword the regulation. If we don’t get it revised I think we are stuck with no post-season play if the state doesn’t move beyond our current Phase 2. (We still don’t have any idea what a Phase 3 might be). Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> <scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 9:08 PM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> >; Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Subject: RE: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Hello everyone, In my opinion, our state government made a mistake when they used the word “Tournament”. For example, my District has a 7 field facility, maintained by four different leagues. In a month, the four different leagues will be playing games on those seven fields all day long. There is no tournament, just regular season games. To the best of my knowledge this is fine just as long as we make sure not to exceed the maximum number of spectators on any given field and follow proper mask and social distancing guidelines. Now if our All Star tournaments were to be held at that same facility, we’d have two games going on, while most likely the other 5 fields sat empty. But yet per state guidelines we couldn’t play because it is a “Tournament”. I know the state’s intent was to eliminate large gatherings of people, and their thought was that they could do so by eliminating “Tournaments”. This is what happens when you have people who “Aren’t in the know” making policy. But it’s life, it happens. Personally, I do not know a lot about the state cup, but if it’s one game on one field, and rules are put in place to limit the number of attendees and follow proper mask and social distancing guidelines, I’m fine with it. These kids have suffered enough and it’s time to get them back out onto the field playing ball, whether it be soccer, softball, baseball, lacrosse, etc. Thanks, Scott Brohaugh WA District 8 Administrator (206) 790-2688 scottbrohaugh(a)frontier.com <mailto:scottbrohaugh@frontier.com> From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > On Behalf Of Mike Ray Sent: Friday, March 05, 2021 1:07 PM To: Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> ; 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: Re: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 Pat, To me, they can say what they want. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck. No matter what they say about its structure, it is still a tournament. Mike From: Wadas <wadas-bounces(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas-bounces@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > On Behalf Of Pat Ryan Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 11:36 AM To: 'Washington DAs Discussion Forum' <wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> > Subject: [Wadas] FW: State Cups & COVID-19 FYI The Washington Youth Soccer organization is in full swing with their end of year “tournaments”. They have teams from all over the state participating. I sent them an email to find out how they are able to do so. Below is the response I received. The basic gist of this is that their regular program is comprised of teams from all over the state who play each other during the season. So their “tournament” is being viewed as year end league games rather than a tournament. This begs the question for us. Is there a way to structure our “year end” program to a point that we could also comply? We already have inter-league play within the district and often between districts. This seems like we’d need some direct discussions with the State of Washington folks. Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org <mailto:BastienC@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 3:53 PM To: Pat.Ryan(a)KPSRA.com <mailto:Pat.Ryan@KPSRA.com> Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> Subject: RE: State Cups & COVID-19 Pat, State cup is not a tournament. Group games and quarterfinal are set like any league games. Semi and final will be set like you are playing a league game at Starfire where teams come to play their game and leave after the game. Best, Bastien BASTIEN CATRIN EPD & STATE CUP DIRECTOR <http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/> <https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/> O: (253) 476-2237 | P: (253) 944-1604 | C: (304) 940-6082 7100 Fort Dent Way / Suite 215 / Tukwila, WA 98188 <http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/> Website | <https://www.facebook.com/WAYouthSoccer/> Facebook | <https://www.instagram.com/wayouthsoccer/> Instagram | <https://twitter.com/WAYouthSoccer> Twitter From: Pat Ryan <pat.ryan(a)kpsra.com <mailto:pat.ryan@kpsra.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:57 PM To: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org <mailto:BastienC@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> > Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org <mailto:KeliB@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> > Subject: State Cups & COVID-19 Bastien, I’m getting lots of questions about the State Cups regarding the Phase 2 protocols which mandate that tournaments are not allowed. How are the State Cups not considered tournaments or does WYSA have an exemption with the State of Washington to hold these? Thanks, Pat _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas _______________________________________________ Wadas mailing list Wadas(a)lists.rodeonetworks.com <mailto:Wadas@lists.rodeonetworks.com> http://lists.rodeonetworks.com/mailman/listinfo/wadas

4 3

FW: State Cups & COVID-19
by Pat Ryan 08 Mar '21

08 Mar '21

FYI The Washington Youth Soccer organization is in full swing with their end of year "tournaments". They have teams from all over the state participating. I sent them an email to find out how they are able to do so. Below is the response I received. The basic gist of this is that their regular program is comprised of teams from all over the state who play each other during the season. So their "tournament" is being viewed as year end league games rather than a tournament. This begs the question for us. Is there a way to structure our "year end" program to a point that we could also comply? We already have inter-league play within the district and often between districts. This seems like we'd need some direct discussions with the State of Washington folks. Regards, Pat ======================================= Pat Ryan District Administrator Little League Baseball and Softball Washington District 2 2686 NE Lillehammer Lane Poulsbo, WA 98370 360-779-1824 home 360-271-5193 mobile 888-300-6193 fax <mailto:Pat.Ryan@WAD2LLB.org> Pat.Ryan(a)WAD2LLB.org <http://www.wad2llb.org2/> www.WAD2LLB.org "If you want 1 year of prosperity, grow grain. If you want 10 years of prosperity, grow trees. If you want 100 years of prosperity, grow people." Old Chinese Proverb ======================================= From: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2021 3:53 PM To: Pat.Ryan(a)KPSRA.com Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> Subject: RE: State Cups & COVID-19 Pat, State cup is not a tournament. Group games and quarterfinal are set like any league games. Semi and final will be set like you are playing a league game at Starfire where teams come to play their game and leave after the game. Best, Bastien BASTIEN CATRIN EPD & STATE CUP DIRECTOR <http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/> <https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/> O: (253) 476-2237 | P: (253) 944-1604 | C: (304) 940-6082 7100 Fort Dent Way / Suite 215 / Tukwila, WA 98188 <http://www.washingtonyouthsoccer.org/> Website | <https://www.facebook.com/WAYouthSoccer/> Facebook | <https://www.instagram.com/wayouthsoccer/> Instagram | <https://twitter.com/WAYouthSoccer> Twitter From: Pat Ryan <pat.ryan(a)kpsra.com <mailto:pat.ryan@kpsra.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2021 2:57 PM To: Bastien Catrin <BastienC(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org <mailto:BastienC@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> > Cc: Keli Bitow <KeliB(a)Washingtonyouthsoccer.org <mailto:KeliB@Washingtonyouthsoccer.org> > Subject: State Cups & COVID-19 Bastien, I'm getting lots of questions about the State Cups regarding the Phase 2 protocols which mandate that tournaments are not allowed. How are the State Cups not considered tournaments or does WYSA have an exemption with the State of Washington to hold these? Thanks, Pat

7 14